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04-01-2006, 10:54 PM
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I'm sacking them tomorrow after 10 years.
Just got an email I've been waiting for since long before Christmas.
They support the use of CS/HLTAs for short-term cover, and apologise that I will find this disappointing.
That infuriates me.
What infuriates me just as much, is that I wrote a good month before Christmas hols, using their 'emergency email' system. I wrote that I'd like a quick reply as I'd like to sort out membership with someone else if I wasn't happy with their response, before term started again.
They're late, I'm still registered with them, and membership runs from Jan - Dec, and you pay for a full year no matter when you join/leave. If I get charged for this year after I sack them tomorrow... I swear I'll... [smilie=hate-mazzata.gif] [smilie=hate-spal.gif] [smilie=ahgg_gtfoslap.gif] [smilie=ahgg_nono.gif] [smilie=backstab_emoticon.gif] [smilie=rk01_karatespaccatutto.gif] [smilie=trilly-158-icon_rambo.gif] [smilie=vamp.gif]
Had two weeks off doing nothing, and now I have to start arsing about with membership forms etc., going to join the NUT, I don't agree with some stuff, but they're the only ones apparently who don't support the use of CSs/HLTAs for short-term cover, and I wonder why... :
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: because CSs/HLTAs aren't allowed to join that union... they don't get substantial amounts of money from them like ATL etc. do!
Grrrrr!
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05-01-2006, 06:02 PM
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Really they not good? I'm with them only because they offer free membership 2 nqt's for their 1st year in teaching
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05-01-2006, 06:25 PM
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They're good, my favourite for 10 years, until they wrote to me to say they support the use of HLTAs/CSs for cover as I described to them:
I rely on day-to-day work from local schools for when teachers go on courses/have interviews etc. or are sick for a few days. This work has kept me going for the last two years, and supply teachers in general for years before that... But they agree with the Gvt that HLTAs/CSs are ok for this. Teachers go sick with no planning for days at a time I've found... and TAs are doing this work!
The NUT don't support this at all. It looks like they're the only ones... coincidently the only ones I know who don't have subscription payments from CSs/HLTAs.
But if you're not going to stick with supply, are after full-time perm. work, then stick with them... they're excellent in every other way I've found!
I'm just having a great big moan at the moment.. hence the nickname!
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06-01-2006, 09:49 AM
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All the unions are free for your first year.
I joined ATL, NUT and NASUWT at the start of my PGCE and am still a free member of all of them.
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06-01-2006, 10:07 AM
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I didn't realise you could join them all!
I spoke to someone at ATL to cancel membership, asked why I was leaving, told them, and they really had no comment! I've had to put it in writing for them. Said I couldn't support the work agreement with CSs/HLTAs for a number of reasons:
My workload has dropped 75%
I am not being respected as a professional
TAs were being used, not just HLTAs
Children want/need/should be entitled to a qualified teacher for every lesson
Children who were awarded TA/HLTA support, were losing it, as the TAs/HLTAs were offering/being asked to cover lessons
Art does count!
History does count!
Some schools are letting TAs take these lessons.
Not Lit/Num/Sci, they're far too important.
So is PSHE! So is Circle Time! So is ICT!
Rant over.
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I spoke to a lady at NUT, before joining, who agreed, on behalf of the NUT, with everything I said. The NUT aren't against teachers having PPA etc., but they are against the use of unqualified staff taking whole lessons.
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Yea ALT offers a lot of teaching resources for free I think £150 worth...
I'm a member of NUT although thanks for the information on joining more than one union during your training year (I am a GTP student)!
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